Why China is Building the World’s Biggest City

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Commentaires

  • PolyMatter

    PolyMatter

    Il y a 11 jours

    Didn’t think I forgot about China, did you?

  • MAA

    MAA

    Il y a jour

    HAHAHA IF U CHECK WESTERN MEDIA THEY ARE ALL TALK ABOUT CHINA

  • MAA

    MAA

    Il y a jour

    CHINA: -willing to be a workhardest people -drink all herbals to support their brain and healthiness -addictive thing are banned(porn &games) -be an intelligent to search exam leak -successfully bring 700 million people to the middle class and get them out from poverty WHITES : -school is meh -drink alcohol until their race evolve so their bone contains alcohol - i even never heard a familly bussiness in europe or usa that lasted long like china or korea -work hard play hard(i never consider this dumb quote is cool since play hard is more easy to do than work hard and harder to get out from the "play") -"they are reptile!" -"you are soo gay" -too focused on sex things and too emphasized them so much in their main life

  • MAA

    MAA

    Il y a jour

    i actually agree with a country that wont accepting foreigner cuz a country will put more effort when theres a lot of differences in race=differences in culture=differences in mind/thoughts. so thats why country like china is brutally fast in growth cuz they only have one kind of race one thought one party and one belief so its so easy to leads people like that to take a precious and very serious goals for their country

  • David Dirré-Moire

    David Dirré-Moire

    Il y a 4 jours

    +Viktor Birkeland you didn't read my comment. Nowhere did I say you said that it was incorrect.

  • Viktor Birkeland

    Viktor Birkeland

    Il y a 5 jours

    +David Dirré-Moire 1st. You clearly never read my comment, as I did not state at any point that it was incorrect. 2nd. I've never heard an English person pronounce it that way.

  • Sergio Cristancho

    Sergio Cristancho

    Il y a 26 minutes

    San Francisco*

  • An Easy-Bake Oven

    An Easy-Bake Oven

    Il y a 2 heures

    Neo Arcadia

  • Avalanche

    Avalanche

    Il y a 2 heures

    This is slightly off. Hong Kong is changing it’s extradition law because Taiwan is demanding an escaped suspect back, but Hong Kong technically considers Taiwan to be a province of the PRC, so do so they need to rewrite their whole extradition laws section with the PRC to send someone back to Taiwan. Lol

  • Sidd Sen

    Sidd Sen

    Il y a 4 heures

    I know that calling you a journalist is a little reductive.. But with gems like ".. China that builds not walls but bridges" and "..a culture within a culture set to expire..." Is some of the best journalistic writing my dumbass has ever heard.

  • JACK CHEUNG

    JACK CHEUNG

    Il y a 7 heures

    Well CHINA has been using HONG KONG to achieve something they should never ever have. The US should destroy evil CHINA at once before it is too late.

  • gz Nig

    gz Nig

    Il y a 9 heures

    True if BIG

  • luke shaw

    luke shaw

    Il y a 10 heures

    >that's not going to be a "city" (not even a "metropolitan area") of 70 million - it will be an "urban conglomeration" ... *tokyo will remain the world's largest (proper) city >"hong kong & san francisco have some of the world's highest rent..the former (san francisco), however..." *that's the latter, not the former

  • dominoes37

    dominoes37

    Il y a 13 heures

    Oh Washington! Have pity on the little child you created 240 years ago! As the time goes by, it is becoming less and less powerful

  • Devy

    Devy

    Il y a 13 heures

    China isn't a city it's a country dumb fuck.

  • Crispin

    Crispin

    Il y a 15 heures

    I was born in Hong Kong and I’m learning so much here...it’s really sad that Hong Kong is being integrated into Totalitarian Communist China and no one can do anything about it but to watch it happen:(

  • Arbaelo David

    Arbaelo David

    Il y a 18 heures

    Isn’t it called canton/Guangzhou metro area? My fav Chinese city and also Asian coty

  • Alexander Yuzefovich

    Alexander Yuzefovich

    Il y a 21 heure

    China: Connects four giant cities into the most powerful economical and production cluster Me: Shit, I'm taking class on how to make animated videos

  • Alex C L Yeung

    Alex C L Yeung

    Il y a 23 heures

    Hong Kong is over crowded, need to expand, or otherwise expode....

  • The Bnbrkr

    The Bnbrkr

    Il y a jour

    Do a video on India.

  • Raul Alvarado

    Raul Alvarado

    Il y a jour

    Why not just nuke em?

  • M. Woller

    M. Woller

    Il y a jour

    Careful with freedomhouse, it's an US propaganda institute...

  • MAA

    MAA

    Il y a jour

    HAHAHA IF U CHECK WESTERN MEDIA THEY ARE ALL TALK ABOUT CHINA

  • MAA

    MAA

    Il y a jour

    china: -willing to be a workhardest people -drink all herbals to support their brain and healthiness -addictive thing are banned(porn &games) -be an intelligent to search exam leak -successfully bring 700 million people to the middle class and get them out from poverty whites : -school is meh -drink alcohol until their race evolve so their bone contains alcohol - i even never heard a familly bussiness in europe or usa that lasted long like china or korea -work hard play hard(i never consider this dumb quote is cool since play hard is more easy to do than work hard and harder to get out from the "play") -"they are reptile!" -"you are soo gay" -too focused on sex things and too emphasized them so much in their main life

  • MAA

    MAA

    Il y a jour

    i actually agree with a country that wont accepting foreigner cuz a country will put more effort when theres a lot of differences in race=differences in culture=differences in mind/thoughts. so thats why country like china is brutally fast in growth cuz they only have one kind of race one thought one party and one belief so its so easy to leads people like that to take a precious and very serious goals for their country

  • Miranda Pillsburry

    Miranda Pillsburry

    Il y a jour

    Hong Kong has and always will belong to China...it doesn't even make sense for it to have soooo much autonomy. Interesting to see the transition occur in 2047.

  • Stanley Henry

    Stanley Henry

    Il y a jour

    I actually think this is an awesome idea. I know China might go about things in a way that western society isn't too keen on but you have to hand it to them, they get it done.

  • J Chastain

    J Chastain

    Il y a jour

    It'll be like the other cities China built, literally no one lives there....

  • The Metropolis

    The Metropolis

    Il y a 13 heures

    That may be true for some no name cities in the middle of desolate farmland, but the Pearl River Delta region has always been densely populated. Guangzhou was historically the open port for mainland China. Shenzhen is where a lot of the headquarters for big Chinese companies are located, and Hong Kong is the regional economic trade powerhouse. The population is ever growing, mostly from non residents from the north of China.

  • Trav L

    Trav L

    Il y a jour

    So many false information, should have done more researches before publishing.

  • HAHAHA HAHAHA

    HAHAHA HAHAHA

    Il y a jour

    INDIANS ARE BURNING 😂😂😂

  • barry weber

    barry weber

    Il y a jour

    Very informative.

  • Philippe Larcher

    Philippe Larcher

    Il y a 2 jours

    Drives on the left due to Portuguese history?

  • MrLMxD

    MrLMxD

    Il y a 2 jours

    8;37 mighty beat -_-

  • English Tea

    English Tea

    Il y a 2 jours

    As a Hong Konger, I can only say the voices of the people are largely ignored on the idea to build the Greater Bay Area, and the decisions to integrate Hong Kong deeper into China are unilaterally made by the government. The problem is with an already well-developed economy, many Hong Kongers nowadays would prioritize political freedom over economic gain, which is something opposite to what Beijing can provide when the city is further linked to the Mainland, and this is why it is a controversial issue here in Hong Kong.

  • K3rNIM

    K3rNIM

    Il y a 2 jours

    I just feel so bad when I'm watching a video about the crisis of Hong Kong.

  • Kalvin One

    Kalvin One

    Il y a 2 jours

    I would say Europe is way much more complicated... and with different languages as well... but it works so far... UK is going out because they don't have the same road ways as in main Europe (they might be idiot not beeing able to integrate to the main road drive and with their huge electricity plugs which needs 3x more plastic, they are way not greeny at all) :-)

  • Nettle Boyss Sunvanbeen

    Nettle Boyss Sunvanbeen

    Il y a 2 jours

    Same thing I wanna ask you. Why Americunt keeps bombing everybody cause they dislike the bully warmonger.

  • Michael Lutam

    Michael Lutam

    Il y a 2 jours

    Quite sure that 10:40 is not China but Rotterdam

  • Lyle Adrian

    Lyle Adrian

    Il y a 2 jours

    I found it so hilarious that western media always think Hong Kong was democratic before it was return to China. IT'S A COLONY GOVERNED BY A LONDON APPOINTED GOVERNOR How is that democratic?

  • Fredde

    Fredde

    Il y a 2 jours

    Well it where better before. People are moving form hk now

  • SiljoCro

    SiljoCro

    Il y a 2 jours

    But there is a german ice train 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • TheArKtec

    TheArKtec

    Il y a 2 jours

    Ridiculous

  • 。騎車

    。騎車

    Il y a 2 jours

    这个……

  • Carlos Vasquez

    Carlos Vasquez

    Il y a 2 jours

    Come on Man! It is San Francisco with "c"

  • Phoenix Alan

    Phoenix Alan

    Il y a 2 jours

    UK does not really give a shit about Hong Kong.

  • Ashtard Pikamons

    Ashtard Pikamons

    Il y a 2 jours

    All these problems just because of white people. Do not forget the opium wars started this

  • Elliot Play

    Elliot Play

    Il y a 2 jours

    The Train used everywhere is German!

  • Content

    Content

    Il y a 2 jours

    12 minute commercial

  • 饅頭

    饅頭

    Il y a 2 jours

    To be honest this is completely a bloody joke, Hong Kong wasted 1117 billion HKD (Fyi it is 142,294,630,000 usd) to build a useless bridge. Meanwhile a lot of Hongkonger still lives in a freaking cage ( frdownload.net/item/vid%C3%A9o-KQkvI_J8_QI.html ).

  • Roberto XS

    Roberto XS

    Il y a 2 jours

    Liked for the proper pronunciation of Beijing.

  • The Most Interesting Man On Youtube

    The Most Interesting Man On Youtube

    Il y a 2 jours

    What a complete cluster fuck

  • Croccy C

    Croccy C

    Il y a 2 jours

    No actual details here, a waste of time.

  • Beatriz Miranda

    Beatriz Miranda

    Il y a 3 jours

    1:50 san "fransisco"

  • MAR 0972

    MAR 0972

    Il y a 3 jours

    Well researched documentary video...good job!

  • ThePhantomJack

    ThePhantomJack

    Il y a 3 jours

    Dude, we drive on the right (super awesome portuguese driver).

  • Gustavo Adolfo

    Gustavo Adolfo

    Il y a 3 jours

    San FranSisco? oh man please it's San Francisco

  • Pak Sang Tse

    Pak Sang Tse

    Il y a 3 jours

    A lot of those barriers were placed to allow things not to integrate together. 50 years of autonomy, 28 years before it ends. I am saying it had gone already sadly.

  • That’s mee

    That’s mee

    Il y a 3 jours

    5:07 portuguese don’t drive on the other side so that’s not why Macau drives on that side

  • Ariel Popperl

    Ariel Popperl

    Il y a 3 jours

    Typical american know it all crap...

  • mrengulfeddirector

    mrengulfeddirector

    Il y a 3 jours

    Jesus there are so many Chinese/Asian people in the world. Just look at this comment section.

  • David W

    David W

    Il y a 3 jours

    China wants and is invading Spain, South America they are learning Spanish as a second language, oh I forgot NZ and Australia... there will be a time when we will those Chinese eyes everywhere !!!!

  • Nick Le

    Nick Le

    Il y a 3 jours

    Can someone give me channels similar to this? I am already to subscribed to some, but I know there are more out there :)

  • TommyBoy

    TommyBoy

    Il y a 3 jours

    Because if not the population will become an even bigger problem. China won’t even have breathable air in the next 30-50 years if they keep up what they’re doing

  • Vincent Verveer

    Vincent Verveer

    Il y a 3 jours

    You used images of Rotterdam, a Dutch city on 10:36. I live there! Noticed nothing of declining freedom though :p

  • Tony X

    Tony X

    Il y a 3 jours

    Very informative but I don't think the bridge part is clear. The bridge was meant for shuttle buses and freight vehicles. A lot of factories are near the Zhuhai region and driving containers to the HK port takes 4 hours without the bridge. But, somehow they haven't decide on the plan to allow trucks passing the bridge yet.

  • FatheredPuma81

    FatheredPuma81

    Il y a 3 jours

    Anyone know if there's an auto video dislike extension for Chrome? Would be mighty convenient seeing as I keep forgetting to dislike/watch to the point where the cancership ending plays.

  • 歌叶

    歌叶

    Il y a 3 jours

    As usual nonsense, this video is to tell you that China is not democratic, so it is evil. I suggest Westerners change their way of expression. Your propaganda is like a joke in the eyes of Chinese people.

  • Stefan Ciganovic

    Stefan Ciganovic

    Il y a 3 jours

    HAHAH! Salty Brits cry over Hong Kong your age genocide and imperialisam is over!Stay on your tiny island and cry you becoming irrelevant in global power.

  • Akin Khoo

    Akin Khoo

    Il y a 4 jours

    actually u have to note, that those are declarations. not treaty. which mean it just something china say but is not legally bound to. the fact that HK is still allow self-governance is amusing enough, but the power still lies with the people's congress, HK inability to gain political allies, means shanghai was able to wrestle for power and insert anti-HK policy into law. if HK doesn't win guangzhou over to its defense, china policies will be increasing stacked against the south. this program is to combat the rivalry and power of shanghai.

  • Akin Khoo

    Akin Khoo

    Il y a 4 jours

    also why are u talking about the non-issue that is immigrantion stop in the station? there are many such stop in countries all around asian, there is malaysia immigration right in singapore territory for rail service too. you shouldn't just repeat what some politician who has an agenda say but look at the practise around the world. also that protest u are talking about, it cause by shanghai pushing for legal change which is the point I am making. China is not a monolith, if HK doesn't defend itself from the politic of other chinese cities, the law would be stack more and more against them. this is the due process of lawmaking.

  • King Lizard

    King Lizard

    Il y a 4 jours

    Why are there so many of these gay faggot channels that have a soy boy read Wikipedia over 60fps story blocks stock footage? Who gives a fuck?

  • Akash Dobhal

    Akash Dobhal

    Il y a 4 jours

    What I learn today? DJI is a Chinese company.

  • Condor the Predator

    Condor the Predator

    Il y a 4 jours

    Hong Kong is not China

  • MrcabooseVG

    MrcabooseVG

    Il y a 4 jours

    Basically they're going to take what little freedoms these cities have left and then shit all over them. Britain should never have given Hong Kong back, i know more than a few Chinese people that came here before the the handover and never once looked back... I feel sorry for Hong Kong, they had it so much better not long ago

  • 巭孬嫑夯昆

    巭孬嫑夯昆

    Il y a 4 jours

    You disinformation and the United States big sucker.The first half of the video seems to be normal,but then you will start your American white pig-like arrogance.

  • MAWA

    MAWA

    Il y a 4 jours

    Who are the two guys shaking Xi's hand at 10:4 ?

  • YH WH

    YH WH

    Il y a 4 jours

    why no Chinese

  • why not !

    why not !

    Il y a 4 jours

    I can answer without watching. Because it has the most people?

  • Roger Chan

    Roger Chan

    Il y a 4 jours

    As a citizen of Hong Kong I am not against integration and GDP growth but I’m against integrating with China as it is - a autocratic regime coupled with crony capitalism. Deng Xiaoping the former Chinese leader acknowledged the superiority of Hong Kong not only in terms of GDP/capita, but human development, thus the 50 year period of autonomy status for China to “catch up”. Instead of catching up, freedom in China is narrowing each day since Xi came about.

  • Dixon D

    Dixon D

    Il y a 4 jours

    You state everything very clear, unlike other channels. Well done. Keep it up. and thank you

  • Gus Serks

    Gus Serks

    Il y a 4 jours

    China fucking sucks

  • THE SAD AND WANT 2 DIE SHOW

    THE SAD AND WANT 2 DIE SHOW

    Il y a 4 jours

    tell em how much theyve spent and people died for that fucking bridge

  • Daniel Lee

    Daniel Lee

    Il y a 4 jours

    Came to see all the salty anti China comments. Was not disappointed

  • Goddess Romsae/Love Bomb

    Goddess Romsae/Love Bomb

    Il y a 4 jours

    I lol'd at the sinister music when he started talking about Chinese controlled land of the train station

  • Zach Weaver

    Zach Weaver

    Il y a 4 jours

    not walls but bridges, cute.. let's see how they handle the waves of immigration once they have all the jobs.

  • J. Gona

    J. Gona

    Il y a 4 jours

    Should have _legally_ left Hong Kong self-sufficient, if nothing else.. With Britain withdrawing from the picture, I think I'd rather see an autonomous Hong Kong, with a strong self-contained local jurisdiction, than a Hong Kong run by Communists of the mainland.. (though I admittedly know less than I should regarding the proposed "merger"). Otherwise, their plans do actually look reasonable and well thought-out..

  • U Haul

    U Haul

    Il y a 4 jours

    US northeast and leftist coasts have the most wealth. And most: Illegals Homelessness Debt Taxes Regulations

  • Qrow Branwen

    Qrow Branwen

    Il y a 4 jours

    For a second I thought you weren't gonna bring up how China was already starting to imoede the democracy of Hong Kong

  • eddyvideostar

    eddyvideostar

    Il y a 4 jours

    GET IT DONE -- JUST GET IT DONE!

  • rejvaik

    rejvaik

    Il y a 4 jours

    Giving Hong Kong and Macau back were the worst decisions in the history of those cities

  • lazypig93

    lazypig93

    Il y a 5 jours

    ShenZhen is China’s silicon valley in a sense that it is full of stolen US technology.

  • Otto den Haag

    Otto den Haag

    Il y a 3 jours

    Well , thats not really true . The corporations like Huawei and other companies from Shenzhen make more patents for new inventions each year than Japan or South Korea . Second , China ranks 3rd in the rating of countries that have the most top universities in the world . Those universities also create a lot of patents for new technologies.

  • Jon Irenicus

    Jon Irenicus

    Il y a 5 jours

    China forgot how much Chinese people hate each-other. People between Mainland China, Hong Kong and Macau will never get along. Just look at the weekly protests in Macau and HK. This Big Bay Area is a complete failure and a huge waste of money.

  • blakespower

    blakespower

    Il y a 5 jours

    it will all become a slum if it is connected

  • Joseph Marino Tripp

    Joseph Marino Tripp

    Il y a 5 jours

    But they didn't built a 70M city.... so what's with the title my dude?

  • Pedro Antunes

    Pedro Antunes

    Il y a 5 jours

    the reson people drive on the left side of the rod in Macau isn't because of Portugal that doesn't make any sense, because Portugal like evry contry in Eurasia drive on the right side of the rode like China another eurasian contry so you can drive from Lisbon to Beijing on the same side of the rode to be more practical...

  • Ham Sarris

    Ham Sarris

    Il y a 5 jours

    Was I the only one who got really confused with the map mistakenly thinking the "ocean" was land?

  • Martí Alías

    Martí Alías

    Il y a 5 jours

    It's sick for me, for instance, every time I wanna renew my Chinese Visa I have to go to Hong Kong, stay there 3 days and then come back to China because with a Chinese visa you can't enter HK (it's forbidden) but if I wanna enlarge my stay in China and get more months of visa, I have to travel to HK once my Chinese visa is expired in order to let them renew it. SICK.

  • Kevin Ma

    Kevin Ma

    Il y a 5 jours

    The other side mentioned at 7:52 is my hometown.

  • edovos

    edovos

    Il y a 5 jours

    Interesting video and even more interesting that you added at 10:40 a footage of the Dutch city of Rotterdam to you video!

  • edovos

    edovos

    Il y a 5 jours

    To be more exact the canal is called Scheepmakershaven.

  • Trevor Duncan

    Trevor Duncan

    Il y a 5 jours

    You said Silicon Valley but you showed the Golden Gate Bridge which is in San Francisco, which is not in the Silicon Valley. It’s just in the Bay Area. Silicon Valley is also in the Bay Area but San Francisco is not in Silicon Valley. Anyways nice video. Keep up the good work!

  • André Fontoura Faria

    André Fontoura Faria

    Il y a 5 jours

    In Portugal we drive on the right side!!!

  • Lam Walter

    Lam Walter

    Il y a 5 jours

    As a Hongkonger, I am infuriated that the Chinese government is eroding Hong Kong's long-cherished core values and the rule of law. This once a vibrant and lively place is now strange and distant to me. We were never given a choice to accept the handover back to China, never...

  • Julian Lim

    Julian Lim

    Il y a 5 jours

    So China provides cheap labour. Gets blamed. Provides tourists. Gets blamed. Builds trains. Gets blamed. Builds a bridge. Gets blamed. Creates a greater bay area. Gets blamed. Introduces universal suffrage. Gets blamed.

  • Mr. Popo

    Mr. Popo

    Il y a 5 jours

    It's clearly better to live under the Hong Kong government than the mainland, you forgot that part

  • Carlos Santos Roque

    Carlos Santos Roque

    Il y a 5 jours

    Thank god for Xi...

  • Daisy _0

    Daisy _0

    Il y a 5 jours

    70M "person"? Oh, I see, it's Chinglish, well played

  • lazypig93

    lazypig93

    Il y a 5 jours

    “The Greater Bay Area” is not a new idea. Many similar ideas have been proposed before and have failed and so will this one. We HKers believe the purpose behind these projects is to create more contruction works so that the Chinese can spend their excessive capacity and get money from HK. They get money by cramming a lot of projects within a short time period so that price for construction materials shoots up.

  • dex lee

    dex lee

    Il y a 4 jours

    lazypig93 Communist lift this country out of poverty and booming for decades with everyone happy so your theory sucks. And no one gives me any cents, that’s when I know you live in your illusion.

  • lazypig93

    lazypig93

    Il y a 4 jours

    dex lee You are right, they wanted it decades ago so they wanted to implement Article 23, which would have allowed them to put any HKer to jail as they like. However they were unable to do it since it was not an easy task. Western coutries were keeping an eye on Hong Kong closely and China’s economy is heavily relied on Hong Kong at that time. They can not afford too much instability. And now the Chinese thinks they are good enough and they can take on the foreign power so they are now forcing to pass the extradition bill which will let them have full control of HK without worry. Your theories just don’t match with the facts. Communist doesn’t act logically, otherwise they won’t be communist. Hope you enjoy your earned 200 cents.

  • dex lee

    dex lee

    Il y a 4 jours

    lazypig93 simple fact. If Beijing wants to fully control HK, they maybe have it done decades ago, and it will be very very easy. what you say huhh? Don’t weight yourself too much. HK is nothing but a tool for Beijing that’s all. What you think they will benefit from fully control of HK? Probably nothing

  • lazypig93

    lazypig93

    Il y a 4 jours

    +dex lee Also I don't know what you are based on when you say the communist party has no intention to fully control Hong Kong. It's a fact, with evidences, nothing to argue here.

  • lazypig93

    lazypig93

    Il y a 4 jours

    +dex lee Qian Hai(前海), Hong Kong & Shen Zhen integration(港深同城化)

  • Emiel Visser

    Emiel Visser

    Il y a 5 jours

    He, that's Rotterdam (the Netherlands) at 10:38, not Hong Kong or Shenzen.

  • lachiere_[sixx]

    lachiere_[sixx]

    Il y a jour

    +Yew Ze Han My reaction was not anything out of overreaction, but out of explanation and honesty. bear in mind that on FRdownload most people give simplistic reactions and that'll be it. I'm personally not superficial in anyway therefor react accordingly. My comment indicates that many ancient civilizations had their own ways of beliefs, but there is a reason why Greek civilization is the foundation of western civilization which profoundly affects the world today in literally every regard. Confucianism is a philosophy devoted almost exclusively to behavior, government, ethics, and how people should function in society, in their families, as government leaders, etc. Classical Greek philosophy is much more broad. It does address the same topics as Confucianism, especially in regards to Ethics and Government, but it also ventures more into the nature of the universe, the divine, and of consciousness, and other topics that we view as more "philosophical" in nature. Greek philosophers were also some of the most important religious, scientific, and mathematical thinkers for the ancient Greeks. You've heard of Phythagoras for his theorem, but he was also a theologian and philosopher and great musician. He invented his own religion and led a sect of Pythagorean monks. Plato was very spiritual and logical, while Aristotle was more concrete and scientific, and in fact invented the scientific method. He did still excel at abstract thought and even posited an "illusory" or non-physical idea of matter. So I'd have to say Greek Philosophy was actually a lot more than just philosophy, because for the Greeks they were just "thinkers." A philosopher was a mathematician, a natural scientist, a critic of government, an artist, a playwright, etc. etc. Confucianism was actually less philosophy and more a system of Ethics, Behavior and Government. That's not to say the Chinese didn't excel at philosophy, but Confucius just wasn't the one who had the broadest set of topics among them. Also the other thing is that what most sciences in the world are founded in Ancient Greece, and not in Ancient Persia or Ancient Egypt or Ancient India is by the way how Greek civilization was, which also extends to the fact that most of these foundations are formalized in Ancient Greece as it has not been done anywhere else in the ancient world, which is today the day the way how we still do things. Hence even history is a science invented in Greece. It does not mean people didn't tell stories before. But it was often subjective and not systematical under a set of principles and rules like we have been doing for the last 2500 years till today. Anyway. Long answer again. I understand you. And China has it's own culture. And I actually like China more than what I have presented in the first comment. China is a different civilization, but having successes in it's own ways. And it all started with the today's countries of 150+ ethnic nationalities where Chinese food once was popular, but today have fallen to the background due to the competition with other large cuisines. We've come a long way. Anyway. No pun intended. You can be proud of your own identity where you stand for. As we all should. So on that note I give will express my respect.

  • Yew Ze Han

    Yew Ze Han

    Il y a jour

    +lachiere_[sixx] oh damn that's one long reply. I think you're overreacting a bit since I was just stating what I've observed. Idk what ur whole religion, spirituality, science stuff have to do with my comment tho. Confucianism is a humanistic philosophy which does not include belief in gods and promotes scientific advancement for the betterment of human civilization. Ur comment seem to indicate that Chinese people do not believe in science, which is completely absurd. If anything, the Chinese is one of the most scientific minded people nowadays, with only 16% believing in the supernatural. Ancient Chinese philosophers like Laozi (571 BC), Xunzi (313 BC) and Hanfei (280 BC) are the pioneers of Chinese atheism, and since the Zhou Dynasty (1046 BC - 256 BC), atheism has been a significant force in the Chinese population as the worship of a supreme deity died out. All of this is also part of the Chinese culture, engraved in the philosophy of Confucius and adhered to by most Chinese people.

  • lachiere_[sixx]

    lachiere_[sixx]

    Il y a jour

    ​+Yew Ze Han ​You forget that the Greek island of Cyprus has the oldest farming village in the Mediterranean dated to 11.500 years ago and other archaeological sites of 10.000 BCE and I can talk about countless of other things that this area is profound in that didn't happen anywhere else in the world or much later. Anyway. My comment was mostly directed to a particular person where I simply took on a hypothetical stance of what I can say about Chinese food and culture and historical statistics simply reacting on people who say things that are not even true to begin with and so countering that. Westerners don't think they are superior though. That is only in the minds of people who think they are inferior, especially when the world globalization spread by western civilization of which Greek civilization is the foundation of, has profoundly affected every corner of the world in which the entire world is bathing in. And I have heard atleast 3 true stereotypical sentences about the western world all the way to that (common said among some Indians who where ruled by English) the west so-called creating/forging history, when that time of English rule and their unorthodox ways of doing things are long over. The world is today run by science, logic, freedom, and other factors that are founded in Greek civilization which is more powerful today than any religion or spiritual beliefs, as in the entire world religious beliefs are slowly falling on the background. Things don't run on anecdotes, emotions and what one's grandma believes, but on pure facts, statistics and other factors all abided by science, history, archaeology, and other scientific evidences. Luckily you as a Chinese don't appear to be falling as low as some Indian's do, as they almost never abide by any science, yet shout from the rooftops that the rest of the world is lying, when they as I have come to know are the biggest liars of all, never basing anything on actual facts. Anyway. This is a bit off the beaten path, but since you where talking about superiority, it simply reminds me of these old ways of thinking based on zero facts. Again. Just because the world is bathing in western civilization and the globalization it created, where traditions in India drop dead like flies while 45% of all Indian men wear English suits at work, yet are sour about it the fact that it is happening (one has to choose between it's own traditions or the modern world), doesn't mean we think that we are superior. We are all humans. China has with it's historically always massive populations had a bigger chance of having people that can make change in their country, which is the reason why China is also one of the historical nations. And so has things happened like that in Europe. Although with far smaller populations, but with immense influences. Things are as they are. If one says Messi or Ronaldo is the greatest, it's not a lie, nor a superiority. It's a fact based on evidence and statistics, and not on who shouts the hardest. And so. Me saying this doesn't make me feel superior, but makes me feel connected to where I stand for while abiding by science, history, archaeology and other proof.

  • Yew Ze Han

    Yew Ze Han

    Il y a jour

    +lachiere_[sixx] Chinese culture isn't all about its cuisine. Try reading up on Chinese philosophy, moral teachings of Confucianism and more. Also, it is true that the first Chinese dynasty (Xia dynasty) started at 2000BC, but before that, the Neolithic age of China begun at 10,000 BC, which is 3000 years before Europe did. That was when Chinese culture started to take form. I don't blame u for having a distaste for Chinese culture tho, since Westerners always think they are superior.

  • lachiere_[sixx]

    lachiere_[sixx]

    Il y a 2 jours

    +Emiel Visser First of all. Chinese first dynasty starts at 2000 BCE which is in the bronze age. In Europe Greece had 4 bronze age's of which the Minoans (3650-1300 BCE) where one of the most advanced in the world and far more advanced than China at that time. So yes the rest of Europe was walking in bear skins, when the Greeks in the bronze age had 5-7 storey palaces with flush toilets, sewerage systems, anti earth quake architecture and flush toilets in every common house even on the 2nd and 3rd floor 5000 years ago. Also. Netherlands has no proper cuisine. You think I don't know? Dutch foods are erwtensoep, rookworst, stampot, bitterballen and some others. But it's absolutely nothing in relation to the thousands of incredible dishes of each cuisine of the countries I mentioned in the post before. So nothing you've said changes the fact that I am right. One thing I agree with is that I also find steel and glass buildings unpersonal and nothing of cultural expression. Hence the fact that I love the Mediterranean countries and especially Italy and Greece the most. As these countries have absolutely everything there is from mountains, crystal clear seas, breathtaking landscapes and islands, unparalleled culture and history, great climate and perfect food. China is not bad though. It has it's own culture. But it's in many places filthy, and many cultural elements that I cannot stand, among which sheer lack of animal rights. Everything get's eaten and in their culture this is perfectly fine. To me it presents barbarism. And it's simply one of the many factors that I call barbarism. And indeed. It's exactly the reason why Dubai is nothing compared to those Mediterranean countries. It's not for nothing that most of the worlds tourism goes to the Mediterranean. I rest my case.

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