New York is building a wall to hold back the ocean

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Staten Island recently received funding for a nearly 5-mile-long seawall to protect its coast. But the plan raises a lot of questions. We’re living in a dangerously dynamic world: Hurricanes are getting worse, wildfires are rampant in California, extreme heat is melting roads in India, and sea levels continue to rise. Will a wall really be enough to protect our coastal cities?
Alissa Walker from Curbed talked to us about how it’s too late to stop the changing climate, but not too late to change how we think about infrastructure.
Check out some further reading from our sister site, Curbed.com:
www.curbed.com/2017/2/15/14616928/trump-nasa-climate-change-california
ny.curbed.com/2019/4/25/18515213/staten-island-usace-seawall-climate-change-photo-essay
For more research and climate-related content:
www.c2es.org/content/hurricanes-and-climate-change/
climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/
www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-disaster-seawalls/seven-years-after-tsunami-japanese-live-uneasily-with-seawalls-idUSKCN1GL0DK
And for more on seawalls:
www.scientificamerican.com/article/after-a-14-billion-upgrade-new-orleans-levees-are-sinking/
news.mongabay.com/2018/06/on-indias-kerala-coast-a-man-made-solution-exacerbates-a-natural-problem/
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  • Vox

    Vox

    Il y a 14 jours

    This piece was a collaboration with our sister-site, Curbed! Check out the original article here: ny.curbed.com/2019/4/25/18515213/staten-island-usace-seawall-climate-change-photo-essay And for more information on how to build a resilient city check out Alissa Walker’s piece www.curbed.com/2017/2/15/14616928/trump-nasa-climate-change-california - Kim

  • LONNIE DOBBINS

    LONNIE DOBBINS

    Il y a 2 jours

    @BLAIR M Schirmer Thank you! I wanted to read the comments and find someone that's actually thinking what all of this means. They're talking of building a wall around Staten Island Only. *What About The City?* What are they going to do for it? *Walls Are Impossible All Over The City!* They can raise homes up higher but not skyscrapers! Right now we need TOTAL Suspension Of All Emissions Just To Keep It From Being Worse. It's to late to stop it now. They need to think about moving.

  • ...................

    ...................

    Il y a heure

    The day after tomorrow anyone?

  • Hayden Smith

    Hayden Smith

    Il y a 2 heures

    That is racist against the ocean

  • c p

    c p

    Il y a 3 heures

    ummm...seawalls arn't for holding back floods,there more for reducing wave damage....Definition of Seawall: A structure separating land and water areas. It is designed to prevent coastal erosion and other damage due to wave action and storm surge, such as flooding. Seawalls are normally very massive structures because they are designed to resist the full force of waves and storm surge.Feb 20, 2019 ,they have been in use around the modern world for century's...and in nature even longer then that,the great barrier reef could be considered a type of seawall.

  • Inverted Shadow

    Inverted Shadow

    Il y a 11 heures

    Back water! BACK! Aaa! Bad water! Back!

  • Emmanuel Cabrera

    Emmanuel Cabrera

    Il y a 13 heures

    All cause the reefs arr dieing. Reefs actually help contain this

  • Tise Ignite

    Tise Ignite

    Il y a 18 heures

    It's just a waste of money. If the storm wanted to it could just dig a tunnel and sneak in. I'm just saying. 😧

  • Maria Gray

    Maria Gray

    Il y a 22 heures

    The video: we are preparing for climate disasters of the future Me: well there wouldn’t be any disasters if we actually stopped destroying our planet

  • destiny velasco

    destiny velasco

    Il y a jour

    you know what we should just build a wall around the whole United states. then we can be on attack on titan.

  • The Resistance

    The Resistance

    Il y a jour

    What about offshore wind farms

  • YesIM mexican

    YesIM mexican

    Il y a jour

    Nothing comes good out of it when you challenge mother nature.

  • mike8055

    mike8055

    Il y a jour

    Building walls could make the waves/sea more powerful. Didn't the levees around the Mississippi river get breached because of that? When you try to stop nature, it just gets more aggressive.

  • Nico_Sama

    Nico_Sama

    Il y a jour

    Climate hits back with equal force because that's how physics work.

  • Jerry Fitness

    Jerry Fitness

    Il y a jour

    Trump: Did somebody say building a wall??!???

  • Ilove Chocolate

    Ilove Chocolate

    Il y a jour

    Why didn't they plant a mangrove forest?

  • DJ Wise Pariah

    DJ Wise Pariah

    Il y a jour

    Because, you know, it's not like the water can't just go AROUND the wall.

  • cesar martinez

    cesar martinez

    Il y a jour

    Nature: *Hurricane* Humans: *Wall* Climate change: Not on my watch! *makes intense hurricanes bigger then before* Humans: meh

  • Syd Clark

    Syd Clark

    Il y a jour

    We live in a massive world, with land that nobody has ever stood on, yet we build on wetlands.

  • Badr eddin

    Badr eddin

    Il y a 2 jours

    _So how many walls do you want?_ USA: *Yes*

  • Herb Tenderson

    Herb Tenderson

    Il y a 2 jours

    Damn, thank God that the hurricane on September 11th 2001 decided to stop and then go the other way.

  • Morgan Yoite

    Morgan Yoite

    Il y a 2 jours

    Make aquaman pay for it

  • Scarlet Inky

    Scarlet Inky

    Il y a 2 jours

    I wonder if that was what Trump meant by a great wall

  • Ryan Rodriguez

    Ryan Rodriguez

    Il y a 2 jours

    Resiliency is just the newest buzzword of landscape architecture and urban design. Cities need to work. Period. Now, tomorrow, and 100 years from now. Green infrastructure has been around for a while and resiliency is just a different way of saying it

  • Ryan Rodriguez

    Ryan Rodriguez

    Il y a 2 jours

    As someone with a masters degree in this area and have done studies on Jamaica bay in New York, I can say that a wall won’t fix anything. The problem with the New York coast is that it 1. Has no protection from storm surge which can be mitigated by land features such as man made sand dunes which would direct water where you want and 2. When water finally enters the land, it takes to long for it to leave. A solution rather than a single wall is creating infrastructure within the actual land rather than the coast for flooding. Infrastructure that will help guide water to a specific destination using the natural topography of the land. A single wall will only be as good as we can build it and eventually nature will become stronger. Some ideas here were good, but definitely not the wall.

  • camjamsdad

    camjamsdad

    Il y a 2 jours

    Walls don't work. Walls are immoral.

  • colonelmcdoogle

    colonelmcdoogle

    Il y a 2 jours

    That’s very oceanphobic of them.

  • Pathfinder Hazel

    Pathfinder Hazel

    Il y a 3 jours

    I wonder what the designers of these seawalls think.

  • Patrick Radcliffe

    Patrick Radcliffe

    Il y a 3 jours

    Build on fill and it starts settling below the water nice try pinning that on global warming.

  • Thomas Marshall

    Thomas Marshall

    Il y a 3 jours

    All of my cousins and extended family (225 people) live within the 5 Burroughs. I’m from Brooklyn originally. My cousins condo was on Mob Wives when Sandy hit. A boat washed up on the front stairs of her condo and they showed it on that episode. The island got trashed. Anyway, I know Staten Island well. There is no way to keep the water back unless you put up a wall around the entire island. It’s below sea level in many parts. Putting up a 5 mile stretch of wall is the dumbest thing they could do. It’s just going to go around the damn thing.

  • Ruben Bronco

    Ruben Bronco

    Il y a 3 jours

    WTF AMERICA, why don’t you use the Metric System wtfff

  • Sven Lima

    Sven Lima

    Il y a 3 jours

    Build a 1mile high waterproof wall around the USA - and fill it up with water.

  • Purple Purp

    Purple Purp

    Il y a 3 jours

    So walls work to keep stuff out?

  • JC Korn

    JC Korn

    Il y a 3 jours

    Something tells me we were nomadic for a reason.....

  • JC Korn

    JC Korn

    Il y a 3 jours

    So.....walls.....work? I was told they don’t.

  • S.A anderson

    S.A anderson

    Il y a 4 jours

    Building walls dont solve the problem its just kicking the can down the road

  • Might Guy

    Might Guy

    Il y a 4 jours

    Scroll down, the comments will not disappoint.

  • Draw Clearly

    Draw Clearly

    Il y a 4 jours

    Staten Island said: 🧠🚫

  • Skull

    Skull

    Il y a 5 jours

    Walls don’t work

  • mechadoggy

    mechadoggy

    Il y a 5 jours

    What happened to most of the comments?

  • Boshua Borman

    Boshua Borman

    Il y a 5 jours

    Jesus Christ, why not try and stop the climate change as well?

  • Boshua Borman

    Boshua Borman

    Il y a 4 jours

    Damn I should've thought about that.

  • Enuka Pasan

    Enuka Pasan

    Il y a 4 jours

    Maybe cuz Jesus Christ can't stop climate change ?

  • Brass

    Brass

    Il y a 5 jours

    Humans: *Builds cities on wetlands* Nature: *Hurricane* Humans" "wHy Is ThErE fLoOdInG????"

  • Ree

    Ree

    Il y a 3 heures

    Humans: "Hmm, these hurricanes aren't nearly destructive enough. How can we fix this?"

  • Logan Butcher

    Logan Butcher

    Il y a 5 jours

    Donald Trump would approve

  • Soleon

    Soleon

    Il y a 5 jours

    what is it with america and its obsession with building walls to solve its problems

  • Livovian Order Mapping

    Livovian Order Mapping

    Il y a 5 jours

    Tsunami: **im gonna end this whole man’s career**

  • Countryman99 Rhec

    Countryman99 Rhec

    Il y a 5 jours

    They just admitted that walls work so why don't they want to agree that the wall on the southern border would work

  • Countryman99 Rhec

    Countryman99 Rhec

    Il y a 3 jours

    @Pierce ya man

  • Pierce

    Pierce

    Il y a 4 jours

    Countryman99 Rhec you must be joking, right?

  • Der Headbanger

    Der Headbanger

    Il y a 5 jours

    Do we all agree that fixing the symptoms is way more important than fixing the cause?

  • Rafael Palacio

    Rafael Palacio

    Il y a 6 jours

    How much time is there until when the weather becomes so destructive that people can't be living in parts of the country

  • Federico Zorrozua González

    Federico Zorrozua González

    Il y a 6 jours

    As an architect I have to say this a terrible solution. The wall will cost millons and it won’t have the capacity to be “””resilient””” in time, because its fixed and is not able to adaptate to the change of tides. It also harms the natural ecosystems that interact in the coast. (oysters, plants, birds). This infraestructural point of view was rendered obsolete in the early 2000, when landscape urbanism came as a new way of thinking the relationship of the urban with nature. Landscape, rather than infrastructure, is much more capable of dealing with the tide because of the simple fact that right now it’s already doing it. The city should invest in landscape architecture solutions that could mediate the relationship between the coast and the water in a more “soft” way, capable of adapting, growing and shrinking as needed. A wonderful example of this approach is the dutch project called Zandmotor, a huge mass of sand that is moved by the tide to where is needed and prevents flooding. I think building a wall is going back to modernism, and we all know how that ended. Hard infrastructure can’t deal with tides because it cannot respond.

  • 홍성탁

    홍성탁

    Il y a 6 jours

    Nah, we'll make OCEAN PAYING FOR IT!

  • Ronald Cates

    Ronald Cates

    Il y a 6 jours

    Global Warming is a Hoax . . . Period 🔴

  • cd

    cd

    Il y a 6 jours

    They preparing for invasion :P

  • J Squad Vlogs

    J Squad Vlogs

    Il y a 6 jours

    Just drain the water and move it somewhere else . . . Duh 🙄

  • kakuella

    kakuella

    Il y a 6 jours

    Building those walls are going to change the eco system there too.. Not sure what's more beneficial for long term 🙄🤔

  • Jim Gerop

    Jim Gerop

    Il y a 6 jours

    Is the ocean paying for it?

  • ‘Moonshine&’Sunshine

    ‘Moonshine&’Sunshine

    Il y a 6 jours

    damn... as a dutch person, this plan to build a wall is almost painful to see... at least they're also planning to use the wetlands. good luck ny!

  • Jarrod

    Jarrod

    Il y a 7 jours

    Why do people live next to the ocean and complain about hurricanes?

  • Another Guy

    Another Guy

    Il y a 7 jours

    Amazing. Keep polluting the environment adding to the climate change for the worse and build walls to keep the aftermath away instead of protecting it by signing that Kyoto protocol...

  • Plus

    Plus

    Il y a 4 jours

    What climate change 🤣

  • Damien's Adventure

    Damien's Adventure

    Il y a 7 jours

    I like this informative video. :)

  • COLLEGE DUDE

    COLLEGE DUDE

    Il y a 7 jours

    building a wall... something trump likes; not exactly XD

  • daLi demo

    daLi demo

    Il y a 7 jours

    make mexico pay for it

  • Fedir Kriviy

    Fedir Kriviy

    Il y a 7 jours

    Kim Mas is 😍

  • Worrywart

    Worrywart

    Il y a 7 jours

    Wow, they're thinking of building a wall that might actually serve a useful purpose? Whatever will they think of next!

  • Wes 0608

    Wes 0608

    Il y a 7 jours

    Most of people from NY think walls don’t work...

  • David Dima

    David Dima

    Il y a 7 jours

    "Build the walls to protect the city is one thing" "But build the city to protect it self is another thing" You guys understand. *plastics*

  • Matt Keane

    Matt Keane

    Il y a 7 jours

    I guess walls work huh

  • Sean Bradley

    Sean Bradley

    Il y a 7 jours

    A 5 mile long, 20ft high concrete wall would have such a large carbon footprint it's insane

  • Activist Voor Rechten Van Kaas

    Activist Voor Rechten Van Kaas

    Il y a 5 jours

    still better than drowning

  • Michael Plessala

    Michael Plessala

    Il y a 7 jours

    We can’t build a wall! Walls are immoral and if the ocean wants to cross Staten Island’s border illegally, it should be able to! Ocean rights are human rights!!✊🏾

  • Ankita

    Ankita

    Il y a 7 jours

    Created the city on wetlands (occupied) Now eager to stop the ocean. Nature avenges in weird ways.

  • Etiti Yulolo

    Etiti Yulolo

    Il y a 7 jours

    as if a wall can do anything to stop the water...

  • Yuzu Aihara

    Yuzu Aihara

    Il y a 8 jours

    In situation like these, people who claim to have a solution tend to choose the easiest and most convenient option; erect a wall.

  • SuperKing604

    SuperKing604

    Il y a 8 jours

    Strategic retreat in a good option to basically pay people to move away from high risk areas. In the long run its cheap and effective

  • thomas is op

    thomas is op

    Il y a 8 jours

    every New Yorker would say to Trump that walls don't work hmmmmm

  • gogzter McAll

    gogzter McAll

    Il y a 8 jours

    Aw aye when these lots harp on about how bad building a wall is. Now they want one

  • EricG326

    EricG326

    Il y a 8 jours

    How racist of them...

  • 《I S R A E L》

    《I S R A E L》

    Il y a 8 jours

    This is racist against the Ocean, we should be building bridges not walls

  • David W

    David W

    Il y a 8 jours

    lol

  • Wade Wilson

    Wade Wilson

    Il y a 8 jours

    So you’re telling me Walls work?

  • Dragongamer1301

    Dragongamer1301

    Il y a 8 jours

    Why dont you just drink all the water instead of building a wall. Smh

  • I

    I

    Il y a 8 jours

    Trump’s second wall

  • I

    I

    Il y a 8 jours

    Why don’t they build a wall in the most hurricane hit States like Florida

  • Davis Edwards

    Davis Edwards

    Il y a 8 jours

    New York said walls are immoral

  • Poppie

    Poppie

    Il y a 8 jours

    hope all people care in

  • NADINE K

    NADINE K

    Il y a 8 jours

    For me building wall is stupidity, it's not gonna work the wave just gonna hit the wall and the wall wont stay in long time it alson ruin the eco with all of life in the ocean ?! , aren't plastic already in the ocean and now chemical ,rock and cemen *such not a danger

  • C H A R L I E T H A R G I C

    C H A R L I E T H A R G I C

    Il y a 8 jours

    HAHA THAT'S KARMA FELLOW HUMANS WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? THROW, BURN, DESTROY MORE.. U LIKE THAT RIGHT?

  • Buffalo Herd

    Buffalo Herd

    Il y a 9 jours

    wait, did you just say that we need to protect Staten Island from flooding or it will return to its natural state of swampland? 2:55

  • Joe Knuckles

    Joe Knuckles

    Il y a 9 jours

    Did New York do environmental studies? Building this wall will kill the yellow striped mosquitos.

  • Seyyed Mohammad Ahmadi

    Seyyed Mohammad Ahmadi

    Il y a 9 jours

    you guys are talking about billions of dollars when your military spends 600 billion annually

  • m yu

    m yu

    Il y a 9 jours

    02:06 damn

  • ToothpasteShouldBeTeethpast

    ToothpasteShouldBeTeethpast

    Il y a 9 jours

    Bro what if the sea goes around the wall?

  • Ersin Avseren

    Ersin Avseren

    Il y a 9 jours

    Just call the Dutchies back..

  • B ill M iller

    B ill M iller

    Il y a 9 jours

    Build the wall! Lmao

  • Geraint Hughes

    Geraint Hughes

    Il y a 9 jours

    people have building sea defences for hundreds of years, its a good idea. Nothing new. Radiation GHE is a lie. Direct proof exists on my channel.

  • Youtube Today

    Youtube Today

    Il y a 9 jours

    But I thought walls don’t work!🤔

  • Es Gee

    Es Gee

    Il y a 9 jours

    perfectly appropriate that trump loving staten islanders are finally getting their wall

  • Alvin Ace Trinidad

    Alvin Ace Trinidad

    Il y a 9 jours

    in the next 10 years, america will be covered by a huge perimeter wall

  • Alvin Ace Trinidad

    Alvin Ace Trinidad

    Il y a 9 jours

    mother nature will be broke paying for that damn wall

  • Josephine The Celtic

    Josephine The Celtic

    Il y a 9 jours

    Have a look at Amsterdam and Holland generally - they’ve been dealing with flooding throughout all of their history. They’re called dikes and windmills.. also, you have to allow water through but in a controlled manner so the landscape needs to be adapted to allow “SuDs”.. you can’t just think that building walls everywhere is gonna resolve all your problems.. so simplistic thinking..

  • Fuby TV

    Fuby TV

    Il y a 9 jours

    BUILD THE WALL!

  • Woodynic

    Woodynic

    Il y a 9 jours

    Only idiots live on the water. A sea wall wont protect you from swelling. Remember Fukushima? If the ocean wants you dead, He'll get ya.

  • Dipto Nugroho

    Dipto Nugroho

    Il y a 9 jours

    Americans really love walls

  • Christina Washburn

    Christina Washburn

    Il y a 9 jours

    Or stop building housing so close to the water and under sea level

  • K4x4 Map

    K4x4 Map

    Il y a 10 jours

    whether it works or not, the idea of trying something is good. hopefully you can use a program to simulate the effects of a wall. sadly as I've stated on other occasions, the (sea) water will only be diverted somewhere else. less cement covering the ground is a great idea, plants trees to soak up natural groundwater. just remember that unless you're using other binders except for water to build this wall, the efforts might last a little while...interesting video...the water in the high hills cuts down valleys to get to sea level (without the required sedimentation load) whilst the sea level is trying to cut up that future wall to get uphill...leaves me to believe that the earth in them there parts is trying to reach a new equilibrium...somehow the interest of obtaining a seaplane rating seems quite the move!

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